I have a feeling that Invidious could go the way of Nitter in the future (a major company being hostile to third-party interfaces and ultimately killing them off, or at a minimum making them highly inconvenient to use). That's why I'd like to see alternatives to YouTube similar to Invidious: chiefly being Tor-friendly (instances with no or tamed Cloudflare, plus availability of onion instances) and working well with a desktop browser that has Javascript disabled. I've heard about PeerTube. It's federated, which is good. However, its web interface at least requires Javascript. While third-party applications are available, development appears to have stalled/ceased on some or all of them. Putting that aside, isn't it reasonable to expect a desktop web browser to work under the documented conditions when it does for Invidious?
>>ER55Q4LE (OP) GNU mediagoblin is a federated platform lets you share videos and doesn't require javascript. It kind of sucks, but you can sort of browse peertube without javascript if you use RSS feeds, yt-dlp, and mpv to browse youtube without JS. For a peertube website, you can find an RSS feed of the videos by looking at https://WEBSITE/feeds/videos.xml (replace WEBSITE with the peertube instance). You can also subscribe to people with RSS, but IDK how to find the RSS feed link to subscribe without running java script. > isn't it reasonable to expect a desktop web browser to work under the documented conditions when it does for Invidious? IDK what you mean by this
>>0GNB41V1 You can also browse peertube with no js if you use ytfzf. Specifically you can do ytfzf -c P The only problem is that ytfzf isn't actively maintained.
ytfzf -c P
>>0GNB41V1 > GNU mediagoblin is a federated platform lets you share videos and doesn't require javascript. Interesting, but I was looking for something more general content-wise. > It kind of sucks, but you can sort of browse peertube without javascript if you use RSS feeds, yt-dlp, and mpv to browse youtube without JS. Yep, it kind of does. > IDK what you mean by this Using Tor, and using a browser with Javascript disabled. Both are problematic for many web sites (even moreso in combination), but happily Invidious is one exception (some Cloudflare instances aside). >>RN1R7F42 > The only problem is that ytfzf isn't actively maintained. That's not great either.
https://github.com/iv-org/invidious/issues/4734#issuecomment-2365205990 [Bug] "This helps protect our community." #4734 >unixfox commented Sep 21, 2024 • edited > Sad news for everyone. YouTube/Google has patched the latest workaround that we had in order to restore the video playback functionality. > Right now we have no other solutions/fixes. You may be able to get Invidious working on residential IP addresses (like at home) but on datacenter IP addresses Invidious won't work anymore. > This is not the death of this project. We will still try to find new solutions, but this might take time, months probably.
>>JO1QF219 I will probably still use it to search for videos and then watch the videos with yt-dlp + mpv.
>>ER55Q4LE (OP) >PeerTube This of all the actual alternatives seems to be one of the best thanks to being FOSS, federated including friendliness for activitypub/fediverse use which means easier adoption, NOT being stapled o a particular crypto or monetization etc. >Watching without Javascript That's going o be a little difficult, but not impossible. There are a number of CLI tools, some GUI ones, stand alone desktop applications ec.. that can do this. For instance, everything on Android that is a fork of Newpipe, is built supporting PeerTube as well as YouTube. yt-dlp and mpv of course can work with it too, and any node that is compatible with SepiaSearch can be used to find videos of interest to play with VLC or MPV or whatever else. I know that some of the major projects (like some listed on the PeerTube documentation third party tools entry) may have been seemingly abandoned or a couple years out of date, but others have forks or Peertube has been added for many devices that focus on youtube (like Newpipe for example). Hopefully some combination will find what you need
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