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The worldview of the "rationalist movement" Anonymous 10/29/24(Tue)20:40:26 No. flounge-KPCYNQ9X  [Reply]
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/6h9p6NZ5RRFvAqWq5/the-summoned-heroine-s-prediction-markets-keep-providing >The Heroine ignored this. “The markets . . . did something markets are supposed to. They kept you in power. They made it so the sociopath at the top of the pyramid was the kind that’s clever and myopic and numerate and invested in the status quo. Not some crazed, bloodthirsty gloryhound; not someone who’d burn the world for a doomed ambition; not someone who destroys by mistake, or just for the sake of it. And I’ve faced a lot of your potential replacements in battle, so I know they’d have been worse.” That's an interesting value judgement.
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Anonymous 10/29/24(Tue)20:41:06 No. flounge-BA20IIDK
>>flounge-KPCYNQ9X (OP) >The worldview of the "rationalist movement" Maybe

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Share some interesting or useful software and services. * yt-dlp: Downloads videos and audio. Supports a ton of sites. https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp * gallery-dl: Downloads images including entire galleries and accounts. Coomer-focused, but supports generic hosts like imgur or Twitter accounts. https://github.com/mikf/gallery-dl * Image Max URL: When given an image or video url, it'll grab the largest/original file. Available as a script or a website. https://github.com/qsniyg/maxurl https://qsniyg.github.io/maxurl/ - * BespokeSynth: Modular software synth and DAW. https://github.com/BespokeSynth/BespokeSynth * VCV Rack: Virtual modular synth. Freeware with a paid version. Popular, so there's a ton of third-party modules, a bunch of which are free. https://vcvrack.com * SunVox: Tracker-based modular synth. https://warmplace.ru/soft/sunvox/ * Pure Data: Free version of Miller Puckette's original Max language. https://puredata.info * BlackHole: Zero latency loopback driver for Mac OS. https://github.com/ExistentialAudio/BlackHole -
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Not software, but Standard Ebooks does high-quality, edited versions of Project Gutenberg books available in multiple epub formats and as websites - single page and multipart. They also publish the code for generating them on Github. https://standardebooks.org/ https://github.com/standardebooks
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Anonymous 10/13/24(Sun)20:26:42 No. fg-E190AL95 >>fg-B3CEIPF5
>>fg-DKAOMTEJ I feel like the Project Gutenberg books are already really good though.
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Anonymous 10/14/24(Mon)01:17:29 No. fg-B3CEIPF5
>>fg-E190AL95 The reason why Gutenberg ebooks aren't in modern formats with tons of markup is because most of those formats don't last more than 10 years.
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Anonymous 10/16/24(Wed)21:49:31 No. fg-ADPR7T76
>>fg-DKAOMTEJ >as websites I like that because it means I can link chapters to people without sending them the whole book like I can with books on theanarchistlibrary.org
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https://aspublic.org/ as:Public is an active Fediverse search engine. There have been Fediverse search engines before, but they tend to go away after (usually Mastodon) people harass the operators because being able to search public, federated posts that are cached across the network is doxxxxing.

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Please address rampant anorectal violence & facilitating factors. Anonymous 03/17/23(Fri)04:20:14 No. fb-UZQWFM76  [Reply]
• Blatantly injurious erotic anorectal violence—anoreceptive activity involving a combination of rapid thrusting, a girthy penis/object, and a prolonged duration—is rampant worldwide. It is impossible for resultant anal and rectal injuries and serious/chronic/permanent health consequences to be uncommon due to anorectal fragility relating to anatomy and neuromuscular physiology. • Widespread (willful) ignorance, apathy, misinformation, and disinformation about anorectal anatomy, physiology, and health are facilitating rampant anorectal violence. • People with (self-)destructive inclinations, some affiliated with pornography companies, are having a field day with anorectal violence and spreading disinformation. This is contributing greatly to societal decay, aka decadence. • Watching violent pornography can have numerous effects on some viewers (including inspiring them to the point of emulation, even using coercion). • Pornography is being used as a substitute for sexual education in many cases. • There are, or most certainly should be, criminal implications for people who perpetrate anorectal violence against one or more others. Furthermore, various factors on their own or combined can in some regions (and anywhere else definitely should) invalidate consent from a legal perspective; these include the possibility or actual result of serious injury, use of a strong mind-altering drug, and the presence of a significant mental disorder such as a severe case of sexual masochism disorder. FChan is no more. :( My previous thread, started one year ago on FChan, can still be found here: https://usagi.reisen/b/BAI8AY22
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Anonymous 05/13/24(Mon)05:26:57 No. fb-NPRYZ5LP
>>fb-96HA65D7 >>fb-LOA954LV Reddit Bullshit & Omission, along with the commentary, in the nearish future probably shall be shelved indefinitely since the search URL noted below that I was using no longer works at least without javascript ("probably" because that could change and/or a convenient alternative might become evident). Something changed with it around mid-April. I could manually lurk on /r/sex and note relevant URLs, but doing so would be far too time-consuming. https://old.reddit.com/search?sort=new&q=anal+subreddit:sex As for rbocommentary being shelved in the nearish future, first I _may_ create one final update in 2-6 months once I've addressed the many bracketed TODO entries (or dropped the relevant threads) and finished commentary on every included URL up to and including archive snapshots from mid-April.
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Anonymous 06/12/24(Wed)03:33:29 No. fb-LRLTKIVW >>fb-UZD5Y70X
Heads up: Years ago I used Google to dig extensively for quotable information of relevance, and I found many books with free, image-based previews of the quoted page(s) available from Google Books. I spent quite a bit of time manually transcribing what I saw into text. This was, of course, an error-prone process, and mistakes were made. Recently I added to my collection the PDF version of many of the books cited in the references compilation. I did notice several minor discrepancies (including off-by-one errors for the stated year, a bit of text variance, and non-sequential paragraphs lacking an ellipsis indicating that a subsequent paragraph doesn't immediately follow the quoted predecessor) in the 2024/01/11 compilation that I hope to have resolved in the new 2024/06/11 edition below. I hadn't planned to release another revision this year, but accuracy is quite important, so that takes precedence. Anorectal Trends, Risks, and Anatomy compilation 20240611 https://pst.moe/paste/srucoj OR https://paste2.org/L6dB893j One known minor issue that'll be fixed in the next compilation (along with the image version of A&T): A closing quote is missing from the top line for Forensic Medicine: Fundamentals and Perspectives (2013) - Page 312.
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Anonymous 06/12/24(Wed)07:13:23 No. fb-UZD5Y70X
>>fb-LRLTKIVW Whoops, none of the years were changed as yet. In the past I remember seeing conflicting information on different sites regarding the publication date. Perhaps there are regional differences. I'm open to suggestions on that front.
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Anonymous 08/08/24(Thu)04:08:29 No. fb-4YDSJDCF
>>fb-UZQWFM76 (OP) > • The "human anus" and the "perineal raphe" articles both depict a female's anus and perineum probably damaged by some kind of major trauma. The English Wikipedia article about the human anus was changed last month, rendering what's quoted above no longer applicable to it for now. The English Wikipedia article about the perineal raphe, on the other hand, remains unchanged so far. From that article as of this post: "The perineal raphe is a visible line or ridge of tissue on the body that extends from the anus through the perineum to the scrotum (male) or the vulva (female). It is found in both males and females, arises from the fusion of the urogenital folds, and is visible running medial through anteroposterior, to the anus where it resolves in a small knot of skin of varying size." Presently not one reference is provided for anything in that paragraph. Further down the article states: "This article incorporates text in the public domain from page 1237 of the 20th edition of Gray's Anatomy (1918)." Looking at page 1237 right now in the PDF version of the book, it's part of a subsection titled "The Testes and Their Coverings." It is talking about a scrotal raphe. There is no mention whatsoever of a visible anterior/anogenital perineal raphe in biological females. "Anatomy of the Human Body" (1918) by Henry Gray can be found here among other places: https://archive.org/details/anatomyofhumanbo1918gray
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Anonymous 10/24/24(Thu)08:18:33 No. fb-TEDPA1US
>>fb-UZQWFM76 (OP) > People with (self-)destructive inclinations, some affiliated with pornography companies, are having a field day with anorectal violence and spreading disinformation. This is contributing greatly to societal decay, aka decadence. The "Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion" (DEI) agenda is contributing to societal decadence as well, at least when it includes promotion of the trans delusion as well as anoreceptive behavior that is foolish, highly dangerous, and likely to be significantly injurious to anyone on the receiving end (especially when people promoting such behavior, under the DEI guise or otherwise, are omitting important details and/or offering overtly dangerous suggestions). "The increasing necessity to address disparities and promote inclusivity in society and within research and medical practice is obvious. In the field of gastroenterology and hepatology, it is vital to realize our responsibility as a community not only in advancing knowledge but also to ensure that this knowledge benefits all persons equitably. Thus, at Nature Reviews Gastroenterology & Hepatology, we are launching a new Series of articles dedicated to justice, equity, diversity and inclusion ( JEDI), entitled ‘JEDI in Gastroenterology & Hepatology’. The Series, the first articles of which are highlighted below, includes review and commentary articles addressing inequities in all aspects of the field and will be continuously updated." "In a Review article, Daniel R. Dickstein and colleagues[2] provide a detailed overview of the physiology of receptive anal intercourse (RAI), a common pleasurable sexual activity that is often stigmatized, and discuss RAI in gastrointestinal disease and related treatments. Normalizing RAI is imperative as patients might experience problematic intercourse that compromises their quality of life and sexual health." "Justice, equity, diversity and inclusion in gastroenterology and hepatology." Nature Reviews Gastroenterology & Hepatology. 2024 Oct; 21(10): 661. doi:10.1038/s41575-024-00985-2. (PMID 39327523) Reference 2: Dickstein, D. R. et al. "Pleasurable and problematic receptive anal intercourse and diseases of the colon, rectum and anus." Nature Reviews Gastroenterology & Hepatology. 2024 Jun; 21(6): 377-405. doi:10.1038/s41575-024-00932-1. (PMID 38763974) Epub 2024 May 19. The full study is behind a paywall, and Sci-Hub currently doesn't have it. Quoting from the page arrived at by the DOI under "Key points" > Management strategies, including anal dilators for anodyspareunia[...] should be discussed with patients. Anal stretching is not a good idea. See also: many medical sources quoted in the Anorectal Trends, Risks, and Anatomy compilation. It's too bad the full study for 10.1038/s41575-024-00932-1 is behind a paywall, as what can be seen from the page arrived at by the DOI is quite concerning and should raise some red flags. And yes, two Nature Reviews studies currently are included in the aforementioned compilation. I'll be going through them very carefully, and may replace them in future editions. I'll also be very wary of Nature Reviews material (and perhaps all Nature publications) going forward.

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Idea: Forum with TLS client certificates instead of accounts or tripcodes. Posting without a cert could be possible and would be how you have an anonymous forum such as an image- or textboard. It goes without saying that the vast majority of these certs would be self-signed. But other kinds of certs might come in handy for, say, official statements from organisations. The private key would be used to sign posts for added security.
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Anonymous 10/11/24(Fri)12:51:31 No. ffedi-8HP3YR2Z
did that on irc with otp its shitty captcha puss
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Anonymous 10/19/24(Sat)00:14:01 No. fg-40GJ1W78 >>fg-NWXT6V6O
Gemini uses client certs
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Anonymous 10/23/24(Wed)22:21:16 No. fg-NWXT6V6O
>>fg-40GJ1W78 but there's no way to sign data uploaded to it IIRC

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I don't understand something. How come this area of the internet (dark fedi, this imageboard) is so racist against Jews and blacks, but simultaneously very friendly towards the LGBT (for instance, trans people)? I guess it doesn't technically contradict but it still feels very odd. Am I missing something? (Tried to find a pic that was related but couldn't so pic unrelated)
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Anonymous 08/25/24(Sun)02:25:32 No. fb-USHEQ28W
>>fb-BQHSC1IV Probably to avoid being lynched.
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Anonymous 09/11/24(Wed)06:58:23 No. fb-A5P2ECDT
>>fb-DBZPAVZI also we're about to elect a half nigger half jeet woman president who's only promise is to make inflation even worse than it already it LOL
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Anonymous 09/11/24(Wed)22:07:01 No. fb-A4YVDUAA >>fb-V3P9ZAI2
>>fb-A5P2ECDT The inflation isn't that bad right now. Last time they checked it was 3.2%.
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>>fb-A4YVDUAA https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/cpi.pdf This is my source (I didn't read the whole thing). I looked at all items less food and energy because apparently food and energy prices are more volatile.
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Anonymous 10/14/24(Mon)14:57:28 No. fb-40HJ3PPD
Living in a black city, the more of them I meet the less I like them. I actually used to be less racist than I am now

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Lisp is good, but it's not pleasant for many to look at. I propose HTMLisp. Yes, Lisp and HTML hybrid functional programming language. Lisp: (+ 2 2) (setf var 2) HTMLisp version a: <+> 2 2 </+> <setf> var=2 </setf> HTML version b: <setf> var 2 </setf>
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Anonymous 05/25/23(Thu)23:11:00 No. fprog-F9DFA0AC
No, you see, you're doing it wrong. It would actually look like ><+><symbol>2</symbol><symbol>2</symbol></+> That way, you have a clusterfuck like ><defun name="lol" x y><if><=><symbol>x</symbol><symbol>y</symbol></=><symbol>1</symbol><+><symbol>x</symbol><lol><symbol>x</symbol><+><symbol>y</symbol><symbol>1</symbol></+></lol></+></if></defn> Beautiful.
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Anonymous 06/02/23(Fri)05:06:55 No. fprog-C572D63E
>>fprog-VUYE82WR (OP) >Lisp and HTML hybrid looks like a lisp+xml bastard child tbh hows it different?
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Anonymous 08/04/24(Sun)19:42:25 No. fprog-O488TSPG
Yud tried this https://flarelang.sourceforge.net/
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Anonymous 08/05/24(Mon)01:20:18 No. fprog-WCVDGXE0
There's also Content MathML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MathML
<math>
	<apply>
		<plus/>
		<apply>
			<times/>
			<ci>a</ci>
			<apply>
				<power/>
				<ci>x</ci>
				<cn>2</cn>
			</apply>
		</apply>
		<apply>
			<times/>
			<ci>b</ci>
			<ci>x</ci>
		</apply>
		<ci>c</ci>
	</apply>
</math>
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Anonymous 10/13/24(Sun)09:11:19 No. fprog-HIZEY5VR
>>fprog-VUYE82WR (OP)

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AGPL dodging 2: electric boogaloo Anonymous 10/11/24(Fri)21:28:01 No. fb-46IECE5K  [Reply]
> Get the server code here: https://github.com/anomalous69/fchannel This doesn't work anymore.
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>>fb-46IECE5K (OP) >go up one level to https://github.com/anomalous69 >see https://github.com/anomalous69/FChannel-Server >last commit 4 days ago >still hasn't removed fchan.xyz from the readme
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Anonymous 10/13/24(Sun)02:36:34 No. fb-KDLLMMCV
>>fb-RB5FHYR0 It's back! https://github.com/anomalous69/FChannel And he finally removed the fchan.xyz links: https://github.com/anomalous69/FChannel/commit/0a4928a30b1294bd5320160a8cdb51104cfdeb31

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Starbound source code leak Anonymous 06/19/23(Mon)07:00:37 No. fv-0LX39KK8  [Reply]
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:bd7fa06196ff340d3efcbc33c0f177cc73471304&dn=Starbound%20v1.4.4%20source&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.opentrackr.org%3a1337%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fopentracker.i2p.rocks%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=http%3a%2f%2ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3a80%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fopen.demonii.com%3a1337%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fopen.stealth.si%3a80%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fexodus.desync.com%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.torrent.eu.org%3a451%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.moeking.me%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.tiny-vps.com%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.bitsearch.to%3a1337%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fexplodie.org%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fuploads.gamecoast.net%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker2.dler.org%3a80%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker1.bt.moack.co.kr%3a80%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.theoks.net%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.monitorit4.me%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.auctor.tv%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.4.babico.name.tr%3a3131%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fsanincode.com%3a6969%2fannounce https://rose.dev/blog/2023/05/27/starbound-1-4-4-source-code-access/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmSjwU5by74
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Anonymous 06/21/23(Wed)01:36:04 No. fv-N3PDUORP
very based anon thanks for sharing i looked into it a bit and found it on archive.org https://archive.org/details/starboundsourcecode but it seems that only the .rar archive contains the full thing too bad probably nobody is gonna be ballsy enough to keep developing the game due to fear of legal repercussions but would be p cool to see some anonymous madlad fix several bugs and performance issues and release it
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Anonymous 10/11/24(Fri)13:54:25 No. fv-F7NHGCA0
Damn that is cool

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I would really like a website where I can explore ideas and ask questions without fear of censorship from governments, admins, or what I say following me in real life. Image and text boards come close, but they don't take things very seriously sometimes.
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Anonymous 09/24/24(Tue)21:15:43 No. fg-Q3LRVDC6 >>fg-OR5ZK2OJ
It should have the following properties: - Good moderation: - no censorship of is beliefs - little censorship of ought beliefs - but also ideally aggressive and toxic behavior would be banned so people can feel comfortable speaking - Anonymity: - accessible over Tor or similar - no personal information necessary, not even a username. can be completely anonymous - Anti-tyrant protection - https://usagi.reisen/g/3HFBUF95#3HFBUF95 - maybe making it on Freenet would help with that - https://freenet.org/ - (Nice to have) Subjective moderation - See Cabal Chat - https://cabal.chat/ Governance structure can be worked out later. Freenet makes many "forms of government" (so to speak) possible.
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Anonymous 09/25/24(Wed)16:25:42 No. fg-OR5ZK2OJ >>fg-RFTUESYX
>>fg-Q3LRVDC6 look to fediverse and pleroma/mitra/snac. all their work fine in tor/i2p/lokinet.
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Anonymous 09/26/24(Thu)15:19:09 No. fg-RFTUESYX
>>fg-OR5ZK2OJ I want total anonymity so things don't follow me in online communities as well (did mention that but post has gone for some reason) so one person per actor isn't a good model for me
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Lou Skunt 10/02/24(Wed)03:42:59 No. fg-0J5UQN2G
You can't be a stupid monkey smowflake and dream of a utopia internet. It does not exist. Public facing sites that offend some can be attacked at your host provider level, the domain name level or any other gov or regulatory level. Everything is regulated like fuck, that is reality. The utopian pipe dream of having a true free speech site is stupid and shows you are far disconnected from reality and searching for a magical fairy land that will never exist.
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Anonymous 10/10/24(Thu)15:58:32 No. fg-WZAK7EL4
>Public facing sites that offend some can be attacked at your host provider level, the domain name level or any other gov or regulatory level. 1) That's what hidden services are for. 2) The US is a pretty friendly jurisdiction for free speech. .st for a registry, Porkbun for a registrar and Frantech for a host (or better, self-hosting) have a good reputation in that area too. Are you sure that won't work?

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The official blog of akari nation continued (old >>fb-I7YE7QIM →).
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Anonymous 10/03/24(Thu)03:57:38 No. fb-HCNFMHMN >>fb-NPD4MDAH
>>fb-T7TFZOND (OP) https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=ZSpD3RoEwYQ the comments section made me lol.
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Anonymous 10/03/24(Thu)03:59:47 No. fb-NPD4MDAH
>>fb-HCNFMHMN It's full of schizos kek.
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>>fb-T7TFZOND (OP) Gokigenyou
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Anonymous 10/09/24(Wed)20:23:28 No. fb-HNNE9GLL
>>fb-0G9V9KR9 I have never watched idolmaster

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Usagi's Tor hidden service intermittently desynchronized from the clearnet site Anonymous 10/04/24(Fri)04:52:03 No. fg-FRQ90VGK  [Reply]
Within the last week or two, I've noticed that Usagi's onion site frequently is stuck in the past versus the clearnet site. The onion overboard displays posts up to Sep 27 with nothing newer. The issue seems sporadic, because sometimes the hidden service is up-to-date with the clearnet site.
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Anonymous 10/04/24(Fri)07:37:04 No. fg-WZE3WVM5
>>fg-APR2O8LT usagi.clear->usagi.onion was syncing around hour don't sync with iwojims7.onion yet
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Anonymous 10/06/24(Sun)03:49:36 No. fg-8XN4PYVL >>fg-JMAFLBRB
what does it matter if there's desync? this website gets 2 posts a month
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Anonymous 10/06/24(Sun)04:28:55 No. fg-JMAFLBRB
>>fg-8XN4PYVL I post like every day.
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Anonymous 10/08/24(Tue)05:34:42 No. fg-LR9B7FX0 >>fg-8IRSZ91Y
Now the hidden service seems to be down entirely.
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Anonymous 10/08/24(Tue)06:34:06 No. fg-8IRSZ91Y
>>fg-LR9B7FX0 Aaand it's back (for now). Thanks, admin.

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test
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Anonymous #Admin 10/04/24(Fri)10:33:46 No. fb-QLINJ2DE
>>ffedi-TG3FQ4SV (OP) cool
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Anonymous 10/04/24(Fri)12:24:30 No. ffedi-VPTBTI7M
>>fb-QLINJ2DE >cool yep, and with loki too do you have plan i2p federation?

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isolated dumb bunny forced thread captcha &&XZ

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Anonymous I2P instance project? Anonymous 08/04/24(Sun)19:11:41 No. fg-UZJ286BR  [Reply]
Would host-kun be interested in making an I2P proxy and documenting the process? I'm thinking of running a personal (private) instance behind I2P for anonymity (and curiosity) reasons. I'd be nice to federate with y'all, I love this instance. If I can't inject the internet directly into my penis, why even live? Oh, here's the I2P website for the uninitiated https://geti2p.net/en/
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>>fg-OWYW194N I'd rather have biased moderation than prison time personally. I'm also mostly fine with removing transphobic, homophobic, racist bs even if its an imageboard. IMHO divide imageboards in topic centric boards and freezed peaches boards where all the slop can go at
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Anonymous 09/18/24(Wed)18:28:49 No. fg-9AMBJB91 >>fg-UEOZN7O9
>>fg-UG5R38JM I'm okay with removing aggressive bigotry and promotion of violence. But not people just exploring ideas of, say, different races or sexes having different skillsets, or the morality of different sexual orientations.
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Anonymous 09/18/24(Wed)19:29:25 No. fg-UEOZN7O9
>>fg-9AMBJB91 People/Companies should be allowed to censor whatever they want on their websites. I have some personal preferences about what should and shouldn't be censored (generally I like forums with very few rules, where they only filter spam, blatant advertising, and things that are illegal in the USA), but I can see the worth communities with more heavy regulation even if they're not for me. Some people like safe spaces or echo chambers, and they should be allowed to go to them when they want. Different platforms for different communities. People who want free speech can find a platform. It's just that the platform isn't popular. The reason why the platform's not popular is because it's a free speech platform, most people don't want to see racist/sexist tirades, gore, extreme pornography, or pedophilia advocacy, and will click off of any website that hosts them.
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Anonymous 09/27/24(Fri)05:18:54 No. fg-DP4G4U9I
>>fg-37ZZGACX great https://github.com/anomalous69/FChannel-Server/commit/687c25c1b9299d57274d91fbced0a4654eefdc21
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Anonymous 09/30/24(Mon)03:06:41 No. fg-P1AG8LQ9
>>fg-UG5R38JM >prison time you need to go back > also mostly fine with removing transphobic, homophobic, racist bs you really need to go back >freezed peaches boards where all the slop can go at you really, really need to go back

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Anonymous (ID: cIjumfvh) 06/09/24(Sun)16:22:47 No. fbint-PKCOQYNR  [Reply]
Ugh, I hate how my native language (English) is a lingua franca because it leads to the degradation of the language. Specifically, ESL people write low quality English, which leads to EFL (English First language) people reading it. When they read it, they consciously and subconsciously change their English to be more like the ESL English. As an example, If someone reads a bunch of research papers, then they will try to imitate their style when they write their own research papers. A lot research papers were written by ESLs so the native English speaker will end up copying their simple English as part of the genre. There are more second language English speakers than native speakers, so any random dialogue will bring a native English speaker closer to ESL levels. In addition, English will end up getting influenced by these other languages, and will become increasingly more fucked up as a result. English is already fucked due to fusing with the romance languages, and it's only going to get more fucked as it fuses with all the other languages (since everyone is using it).
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Anonymous (ID: HiddenID) 06/11/24(Tue)15:53:01 No. fbint-X7YMKYCL
>>fbint-PKCOQYNR (OP) I would say that there's no correct way to speak a language so long as everybody is understood. >>fbint-ZEO7CO4J Same. I find that difficult as well.
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after whitey is extinct and world technology falls back into the bronze age English will fracture into a bunch of different languages, kinda like Latin becoming the romance languages.
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Anonymous (ID: cIjumfvh) 06/13/24(Thu)11:00:40 No. fbint-CJ3IIY1O
>>fbint-X7YMKYCL > I would say that there's no correct way to speak a language so long as everybody is understood. I generally agree but there is one (not very important) point of contiention: let's say there are two Russians who think they are speaking japanese, and can understand one another when they talk, but a native japanese speaker couldn't understand them. If that's the case, then they are speaking japanese incorrectly, even if they both understand each other, and the native speaker isn't part of the conversation. They are speaking some sort of japanese pidgin, rather than the language proper. Secondly I think you misunderstood my point. I don't care about "correctly" speaking English. If I want to communicate with someone, It dosen't trigger me if people make grammatically incorrect expressions as long as I can understand them (Eg saying "I'm doing good" rather than "I'm doing well"). The degradation I'm talking about is twofold, The first problem is that the language becomes harder to learn. A language that has very little foreign influence is much more regular than a language with lots, and as a result, it is usually easier to learn. English orthography is a nightmare because we have adopted a shit load of foreign words. We have multiple morphological derivations and inflections that are specific to certain kinds of nouns (compare inflections: cactus -> cacti. duck -> ducks, octopus -> octopuses, ox -> oxen, goose -> geese, moose -> meese, mouse -> mice, etcetera. For morphological derivations: gummy, quarrelsome, fugacious, catlike, ecclesiastical, dionysian, homeric, and more). A lot of that is due to us taking foreign words, and keeping their derivation rules. The second problem is that the language usually degrades in beauty. It is much harder for an ESL person to make idiomatic/poetic expressions, so they become less common in the language. To play devils advocate, you could argue that the language becomes more analytical because inflections are hard for second language speakers to learn (but I could be wrong about that, it happened with English and Mediterranean Lingua Franca, but I haven't looked at enough lingua francas to know if it does that all the time). This actually makes the language easier to learn and it makes it better for poetry, but I think the language harder to learn, and less beautiful in general. >>fbint-R4BDLQUQ It will probably fracture into a bunch of different languages even if civilization doesn't collapse.
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Anonymous (ID: XIwFURHx) 09/25/24(Wed)13:25:58 No. fbint-1MB0CAZ7
shit
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Anonymous (ID: HiddenID) 09/26/24(Thu)15:35:35 No. fbint-OZV3LDJC
>>fbint-R4BDLQUQ https://www.orionsarm.com/eg-topic/45b3e7e486409#anglic


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